My Hate For Hyundai Grows

"Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies" (jordanwphillips) 05/13/2017 at 13:35 • Filed to: None

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What the fuck was wrong with a normal hose clamp? Why install one that falls apart as soon as it’s unscrewed? Not pictured, missing fourth piece.

Alternatively Titled: If it costs $10 extra for the dealer to do it, just get the dealer to do it.

aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 14:04

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Jesus, they still use these types of clamps? My alfa is full of them they’re even worse when they have 40 years of rust on them

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > aberson Bresident of the FullyAssed Committe 05/13/2017 at 14:11

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Hyundai does.

DipodomysDeserti > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 14:25

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Those are the same style of clamps that were on my ‘63 Corvair. Stay classy Hyundai.

sn4cktimes > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 14:25

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Disclaimer: I am not supporting Hyundai’s usage of these clamps at all, I too think they’re dumb. BUT, I do see why they use them. It’s probably because they can be opened all the way and be put on or taken off of tubes while they’re in place. So that would be my guess. But yeah, they are crap.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > DipodomysDeserti 05/13/2017 at 14:26

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They are awful.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 14:27

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I’ve never even seen one of those before, I thought these were the only hose clamps:

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > sn4cktimes 05/13/2017 at 14:28

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My Fiesta has these, and they work so much better. And it can be taken off the hose.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > gin-san - shitpost specialist 05/13/2017 at 14:29

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Those should be the only hose clamps.

Frenchlicker > gin-san - shitpost specialist 05/13/2017 at 14:35

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Oh but there’s more. He doesn’t even have the nightmare ones pictured.

These motherfuckers, these are terrible and shouldn’t exist. They are proof that OE’s don’t give two shits about people fixing stuff in the future.

sn4cktimes > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 14:38

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Normal hose clamps like these sometimes seem to have trouble re-engaging the gear to put them back together if they’re in a tricky spot or something is kinda twisting them. I mean, I haven’t ever had any real issue with one unless it’s rusted really badly. But maybe that was the reasoning that Hyundai went with. Both styles can be operated with a socket or a wrench so I can’t see it being a tool based decision. I never use a screwdriver on them. I slip it out too often, and can’t see an assembly line using one either. Most of those tools are designed for pretty positive engagement to avoid stripping and slipping.

gin-san - shitpost specialist > Frenchlicker 05/13/2017 at 15:16

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It’s clear how those are supposed to work, but as with any sub-optimal solution you’re left asking:

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Frenchlicker 05/13/2017 at 15:17

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That’s much better than the one I showed. It doesn’t have any extra little parts to fall off. 

RazoE > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 15:44

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You’re not supposed to completely loosen them, I think my Supras and IS300 had those. Replaced them all with T bolt clamps whenever possible

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > RazoE 05/13/2017 at 16:23

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It didn’t give me a choice.

wkiernan > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 16:58

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Looks like some kind of Chapmanesque “add lightness” thing. Who knows what gets into these crazy bastards? Consider yourself lucky not to own one of those German things, where they redo things that were handled perfectly adequately by conventional means for the last half century a new, hard, expensive way, just because they can.

Does the missing piece go between the head of the screw and the wire?

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Frenchlicker 05/13/2017 at 17:23

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Unpopular opinion: I like this kind. They’re a little annoying if you haven’t figured out the right tool to use, but once you have I actually like these.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 17:28

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The “normal” worm-gear sorts of clamps completely fail if slightly over-tightened and can cut the hose you’re clamping even if they don’t.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 17:31

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No. They fail if you over-tighten them even slightly, and they can and will cut the hose you’re clamping.

If you look up the fuel injection hose clamps, they provide much better 360° clamping with much better results.

Frenchlicker > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 05/13/2017 at 19:00

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If I had enough of them on a vehicle to justify buying the actual tool they make for them I wouldn’t mind them. Using tools I have in the tight areas they exist always gets me.

Frenchlicker > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 05/13/2017 at 19:01

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I guess so. Plus these would probably hold better over time.

gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee > Frenchlicker 05/13/2017 at 19:45

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I don’t have the correct tool either. Generally I use a pair of needle nose vice grips or channel locks, perpendicular to the clamp, but wide-nose vice grips in line with it work pretty well too.

Maybe it’s a thing of practise. I’ve also wrestled them off with just my fingers.

Clown Shoe Pilot > Frenchlicker 05/13/2017 at 23:21

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These are the devil. I had one pop out of the pliers on me and it shot directly into my fingernail doing about mach 6 which of course hurt like hell and caused me to shout some very choice words. The resulting blood blister took about 5 months to heal/disappear.

Frenchlicker > gogmorgo - rowing gears in a Grand Cherokee 05/14/2017 at 10:03

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It’s definitely a thing of practice. I’ve always used needle nose pliers but I still occasionally get my finger pinched when they slip. I usually replace them with standard hose clamps even though new replacements of those probably do the job better.

Frenchlicker > Clown Shoe Pilot 05/14/2017 at 10:04

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Mine normally happens when the nose of the pliers slip off and the bottom of the pliers pinch my hand.

uofime-2 > Frenchlicker 05/15/2017 at 09:54

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They do make a proper tool with basically two hooks and a cable on a ratcheting mechanism that can grab ahold of the tabs and lock them open.Once you have the right tool these are actually not bad at all. I’ve actually bought more to use on some vacuum lines. 

Frenchlicker > uofime-2 05/15/2017 at 10:10

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I knew about the tool. I just don’t do enough with hose clamps currently to justify it. If I did I probably would consider it since they seem the most secure.

uofime-2 > Frenchlicker 05/15/2017 at 10:36

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fair. Once you have it you like these clamps because they’re much easier to deal with especially in tight spaces as opposed to worm gear or really anything with a fastener, because they don’t want to spin (re-clock) while you tighten them.